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Post by mirh on Feb 7, 2017 17:38:12 GMT
github.com/ME3Explorer/ME3Explorer/issues/465As I said, Package Editor (that can open .u files) is nowhere to be found. Besides, the UI is somewhat confusing (even if I just had to work with ME3). Better pointing out X is for voices, instead of animations or plot could help.
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Post by ottemis on Feb 7, 2017 18:06:46 GMT
You don't need to link to GitHub issues on the forums. The whole point to GitHub is keeping this off the forums. When a coder has time to look at that issue and/or respond to it, they will.
Edit: my apologies, I see you were directed back here from Github.
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Post by giftfish on Feb 7, 2017 19:43:55 GMT
mirh -- 1. As explained previously, all functionalities that existed for ME1 and ME2 in separate tools has been rolled into one. PackEd, SeqEd, and DialogueEd are cross-platform. ME1 TLK Editor still exists as a separate tool. If you're saying that functionality present in v2.0 and is MISSING in v3.0, then that's something you need to report an issue for. The issue should be accompanied by a complete explanation with screenshots, not a vague question/comment. 2. I'm going to say this once and only once. You have a history of passive-aggressive, unacceptable behavior on the old forum. So far, it hasn't been much better here. That behavior will not be tolerated on this forum. If you have a suggestion about a change/improvement to the toolset, make it on GitHub like everyone else. We're certainly willing to listen. Be clear, concise, mature, and explain why you think it's needed. If you aren't capable of that kind of behavior, then keep your opinions to yourself. This is your one and only warning.
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Post by mirh on Feb 7, 2017 23:28:22 GMT
mirh -- 2. You have a history of passive-aggressive, unacceptable behavior on the old forum. What?? I think you are mistaking me for somebody else. mirh -- So far, it hasn't been much better here. Where I only have like 5 posts, 4 of which have also received or given appreciation? mirh -- If you're saying that functionality present in v2.0 and is MISSING in v3.0, then that's something you need to report an issue for. The issue should be accompanied by a complete explanation with screenshots, not a vague question/comment. You know, exactly because I don't pretend to be and I'm not omniscient, if I see something isn't there I don't know what else to talk about. The vague question was indeed: where is it? And exactly because it seemed to me serious I reported it there. Till now I still haven't got an answer. Ok let's say I just found it, in the "create mods" department. Which.. baffles me (since two opposed buttons shouldn't be supposed to share same functions in the end) but ok, I'm quite happier now. Guess a mod could change the thread title to "UI logic improvements/ideas/suggestions" or something? |
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Post by ottemis on Feb 8, 2017 0:09:31 GMT
No mistake, you come across as quite abrasive. It's the way you choose to word things, often not what you are effectively saying.
Look for instance at the way you chose to open this thread. It wasn't a question but more of a complaint/ statement of 'fact' and then you follow it up with a 'suggestion', which reads more like an arrogant statement pointing out inferiority.
It puts people on guard immediately. I'm sure that's not the effect you were going for?
I think that if you care about how you are perceived, you might want to seriously reflect on the way you choose to communicate with others.
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Post by mirh on Feb 9, 2017 13:35:45 GMT
Look for instance at the way you chose to open this thread. It wasn't a question but more of a complaint/ statement of 'fact' It wasn't a question because indeed I had meant it to be a "follow-up" of the github thread? Which may even look pissed, brief or "aloof" because let's say I kind-of-was (after 4 days nobody had replied me for an issue I was genuinely considering to fall under the very criteria giftfish mentioned) but.. for the love of me I'm quite baffled by how that could count as thisAlso, till the day before yesterday I didn't even know to be an "historic"/"well known" user or something of the old forums. and then you follow it up with a 'suggestion', which reads more like an arrogant statement pointing out inferiority. I criticize the UI (for reasons that I slightly explained above and I'm saying I'd love to deepen in this thread etc) and that would be arrogant? You are acting like I had said developers are dumb, which couldn't be farther from what I think. |
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Post by ottemis on Feb 9, 2017 14:08:59 GMT
mirh , I can understand that if you don't recognize the inherent issue with the way you choose to express yourself, being told this might be difficult to process. While you don't post often at all here or on the old forums, this is how you come across 90% of the time to others like Giftfish and myself. For me, that 'tone' is directly linked to your person because of it. Obviously this isn't something we'd normally discuss this way or at all, most the time it's just a question of someone having an offday. But when it's as consistent as it is with you, you run risk of us becoming unwilling to lend you support and field your questions as it exposes us to a certain level of verbal abuse and that saps energy. There should be mutual respect and appreciation when we engage eachother for it to be healthy, and that's just simply not the case now. I am trying to help you but I'm not sure if I can, if you can't see how the way you communicate certain things could be considered passive aggressive or abrasive. Maybe this is a problem with language barriers? I don't know if you are a native speaker?
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Post by mirh on Feb 9, 2017 23:26:50 GMT
mirh , I can understand that if you don't recognize the inherent issue with the way you choose to express yourself, being told this might be difficult to process. While you don't post often at all here or on the old forums, this is how you come across 90% of the time to others like Giftfish and myself. It's not difficult to "process". It's difficult to correlate these words to something in particular, that isn't just my usual haste (even more when tinkering with ME was supposed to be a just-two-minutes showerthought while busy with other stuff). Which may not be elegant, and let's say I see that I lack in pleasantries, but has no content or intent to actively or passively upset people. I checked even the old forums, and I met you once. Funnily, both times with bashing on me. The remainder of time I haunted on "my" two threads alone. Obviously this isn't something we'd normally discuss this way or at all, most the time it's just a question of someone having an offday. But when it's as consistent as it is with you, you run risk of us becoming unwilling to lend you support and field your questions as it exposes us to a certain level of verbal abuse and that saps energy. There should be mutual respect and appreciation when we engage eachother for it to be healthy, and that's just simply not the case now. And personally, I wouldn't normally discuss this either, just saying that it isn't even impossible for a person to always had bad days (unrelatedly to his own kindness/ethics/etc), especially when forum interventions are 100% of times due to problems in the first place. But saying that I verbally abused somebody... What? Something is really wrong here. Either me, or your definition of aggressive/unrespectful/ungrateful that I'm asking you from 3 posts to specify better (giving even examples of what I'd consider a priori your definition to imply), only getting simply restatements. Maybe this is a problem with language barriers? I don't know if you are a native speaker? I am not, but aside of me wishing I had a more nuanced synonym of bashing just some lines above, I don't recall to have ever felt like I was missing anything. |
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Post by giftfish on Feb 10, 2017 1:59:13 GMT
We're not going to continue this discussion in this manner. Locked.
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