Post by sil on Jan 26, 2017 1:52:17 GMT
This is not a request or an announcement, it's more posing the idea "Could this mission be restored?". Before I write anything on it, here are the text files and the only dialogue I've found a link to:
Spectre Terminal
Letter - United Geth & Quarians
Letter - Eliminated Geth
Mission Dialogue
Journal Entry
Dialogue
Other dialogue
If she flew off the handle during the war
Video
War Asset Quotes
Comments by the author of the original thread
The ability to rebuild this mission/assignment -exactly- as presented is non-existant. There is a lack of audio for Xen, some parts even sound like there was combat, and it is quite messy and incomplete. But there is an obvious set of outcomes, a portrait of what she might have been attempting, and a couple of letters and a Spectre Terminal message. There is even resolution audio from Admiral Hackett to use. The voice actress for Xen is very distinctive, she has a number of lines in ME2 and 3 that could be made use of, but she also voiced Morrigan in the Dragon Age games. Though their methods of speaking are not 100% matching, her distinctive voice would help make any voices ported over from DA feel right (as long as they were altered to include quarian audio effects).
I think that there is the ability to craft something out of this, what do others think?
Is it worth it?
How would we do it?
Perhaps a team effort could decide on how it flows?
Spectre Terminal
Assistance Request from Admiral Xen
Admiral Xen has requested leave to perform additional experiments involving attacks on synthetic intelligences. While the experiments are purely theoretical, the nature of the experiments includes creating suicidal semi-AIs that infect other AIs and then self-terminate, which raises possible legal and ethical concerns. Xen has promised that this will improve defenses against Reaper attacks. Spectre authorization could bypass Council law on AI experimentation and give Xen access to the resources she has requested.
Admiral Xen has requested leave to perform additional experiments involving attacks on synthetic intelligences. While the experiments are purely theoretical, the nature of the experiments includes creating suicidal semi-AIs that infect other AIs and then self-terminate, which raises possible legal and ethical concerns. Xen has promised that this will improve defenses against Reaper attacks. Spectre authorization could bypass Council law on AI experimentation and give Xen access to the resources she has requested.
<string> <id>722553</id> <position>100069</position> <data>Assistance Request from Admiral Xen</data> </string> <string> <id>722554</id> <position>100070</position> <data>Admiral Xen has requested leave to perform additional experiments involving attacks on synthetic intelligences. While the experiments are purely theoretical, the nature of the experiments includes creating suicidal semi-AIs that infect other AIs and then self-terminate, which raises possible legal and ethical concerns. Xen has promised that this will improve defenses against Reaper attacks. Spectre authorization could bypass Council law on AI experimentation and give Xen access to the resources she has requested.</data> </string>
Letter - United Geth & Quarians
Help Needed: Urgent
From: Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. The Alliance is making noise, worried my experiments will offend the geth, but we can't afford to be choosy with defense plans against the Reapers. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete my experiments and drive the Reapers back.
From: Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. The Alliance is making noise, worried my experiments will offend the geth, but we can't afford to be choosy with defense plans against the Reapers. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete my experiments and drive the Reapers back.
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Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. The Alliance is making noise, worried my experiments will offend the geth, but we can't afford to be choosy with defense plans against the Reapers. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete my experiments and drive the Reapers back.</data> </string>
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. The Alliance is making noise, worried my experiments will offend the geth, but we can't afford to be choosy with defense plans against the Reapers. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete my experiments and drive the Reapers back.</data> </string>
Letter - Eliminated Geth
Help Needed: Urgent
From: Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. For all the geth resources we found on Rannoch, we still don't have the technology it will take to hold off the Reapers, but what we found did give me ideas for experiments that could help halt the Reaper advance. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete these experiments... before it's too late.
From: Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. For all the geth resources we found on Rannoch, we still don't have the technology it will take to hold off the Reapers, but what we found did give me ideas for experiments that could help halt the Reaper advance. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete these experiments... before it's too late.
<string> <id>722779</id> <position>100216</position> <data>From: Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. For all the geth resources we found on Rannoch, we still don't have the technology it will take to hold off the Reapers, but what we found did give me ideas for experiments that could help halt the Reaper advance. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete these experiments... before it's too late.</data> </string>
Shepard, the Council won't listen to me and is threatening to have me jailed. For all the geth resources we found on Rannoch, we still don't have the technology it will take to hold off the Reapers, but what we found did give me ideas for experiments that could help halt the Reaper advance. You're a Spectre. Use your authorization to get me the tools I need to complete these experiments... before it's too late.</data> </string>
Mission Dialogue
First list of quotes are presumed to be Tali
Shepard, have you got a minute? C-Sec asked for my help with something.
Here, I'll send you the signal frequency. Now, if you can scan that keeper...
Link in to your omni-tool's optic link. See anything?
That's the keeper's trail. It leaves a residue when it works.
Follow the tracks. Hopefully there's one nearby.
Excellent. With luck, they'll lead to another affected keeper, and we can triangulate the signal's location.
Remember Vigil back on Ilos? He said that the keepers were built to respond to Reaper signals.
It might be nothing, but if this has something to do with the Reapers...
The whole Citadel's been acting strangely lately.
Lag on the main channels, garbage data in basic signals.
Maybe those Cerberus bastards damaged something. God, I want payback.
I've never seen a signal like this.
Here, I'll send you the signal frequency. Now, if you can scan that keeper...
Link in to your omni-tool's optic link. See anything?
That's the keeper's trail. It leaves a residue when it works.
Follow the tracks. Hopefully there's one nearby.
Excellent. With luck, they'll lead to another affected keeper, and we can triangulate the signal's location.
Remember Vigil back on Ilos? He said that the keepers were built to respond to Reaper signals.
It might be nothing, but if this has something to do with the Reapers...
The whole Citadel's been acting strangely lately.
Lag on the main channels, garbage data in basic signals.
Maybe those Cerberus bastards damaged something. God, I want payback.
I've never seen a signal like this.
Journal Entry
Citadel: Malfunctioning Keepers
C-Sec Officer Jordan Noles needs help tracking a possible hacking problem that has disabled several keepers. Track keeper activity across the Presidium Commons.
C-Sec Officer Jordan Noles needs help tracking a possible hacking problem that has disabled several keepers. Track keeper activity across the Presidium Commons.
<id>701917 <position>88659 C-Sec Officer Jordan Noles needs help tracking a possible hacking problem that has disabled several keepers. Track keeper activity across the Presidium Commons.
<id>701918 <position>88660 Citadel: Malfunctioning Keepers
<id>701918 <position>88660 Citadel: Malfunctioning Keepers
Dialogue
Noles: Jordyn Noles, E-Crimes. It's an honor to meet you, Commander.
Shepard: What's going on?
Noles: We detected an anomalous transmission recently. We think it shut down some of the keepers.
Noles: They asked me to help track the signal.
Noles: No, just unresponsive. Keepers self-destruct when they die.
Noles: That's why we're trying to keep this quiet. There's enough to worry about already.
Noles: Tell Vakarian to kick their asses for me, next time you run into them.
Shepard: You knew Garrus?
Noles: Yeah, back when he was at C-Sec. Good officer. Little angry, though.
Shepard: That's a shock.
Noles: I'm pretty sure Bailey thought we were all dead until you folks came in.
Shepard: What's going on?
Noles: We detected an anomalous transmission recently. We think it shut down some of the keepers.
Noles: They asked me to help track the signal.
Noles: No, just unresponsive. Keepers self-destruct when they die.
Noles: That's why we're trying to keep this quiet. There's enough to worry about already.
Noles: Tell Vakarian to kick their asses for me, next time you run into them.
Shepard: You knew Garrus?
Noles: Yeah, back when he was at C-Sec. Good officer. Little angry, though.
Shepard: That's a shock.
Noles: I'm pretty sure Bailey thought we were all dead until you folks came in.
Tali?: Shepard, we've found bodies. Refugees, I think. They've been electrocuted.
Shepard: Keep an open channel.
Tali: Roger that, Commander.
Noles: Officer requesting backup. I have multiple DBs, cause unknown.
Tali?: Shepard, we've got gunshots up ahead!
Tali: We're going in!
Shepard: Keep an open channel.
Tali: Roger that, Commander.
Noles: Officer requesting backup. I have multiple DBs, cause unknown.
Tali?: Shepard, we've got gunshots up ahead!
Tali: We're going in!
Shepard: Tali, what's going on?
Tali: Xen? Shepard, it's Admiral Xen!
Tali: Xen, stand down!
(Noles?): Ma'am, you are under arrest. Deactivate your omni-tool or I will--
Tali: Noles is down!
Tali: Xen? Shepard, it's Admiral Xen!
Tali: Xen, stand down!
(Noles?): Ma'am, you are under arrest. Deactivate your omni-tool or I will--
Tali: Noles is down!
Commander Shepard! How lovely. Another interruption.
What are you talking about? The geth are dead!
The geth could have served us! They were built to serve us!
By destroying a Reaper, Shepard made Rannoch a target. And we now lack geth army to protect us!
I've combed through the biggest sites on Rannoch, and you know what I found?
Nothing! Nothing that can save us! And so I have chosen to take independent action.
What are you talking about? The geth are dead!
The geth could have served us! They were built to serve us!
By destroying a Reaper, Shepard made Rannoch a target. And we now lack geth army to protect us!
I've combed through the biggest sites on Rannoch, and you know what I found?
Nothing! Nothing that can save us! And so I have chosen to take independent action.
Xen: We had victory in our grasp until you betrayed us!
Tali: Shepard stopped the war!
Xen: Are you sleeping with him, Tali? Did someone get her induction filter popped on Pilgrimage? Or are you just stupid?
Xen: Because I can see the rest of our spineless leaders accepting peace, but not Rael'Zorah's daughter.
Xen: Have the geth loaded themselves into your suit yet, Tali? How long until they're talking for you? Until they run you?
Xen: I did not work for years to become a slave to the synthetics!
Shepard: Xen, whatever grudge you have with me, it doesn't affect anyone else.
OR Shepard: I figured it was only a matter of time until you cracked.
Tali: Shepard stopped the war!
Xen: Are you sleeping with him, Tali? Did someone get her induction filter popped on Pilgrimage? Or are you just stupid?
Xen: Because I can see the rest of our spineless leaders accepting peace, but not Rael'Zorah's daughter.
Xen: Have the geth loaded themselves into your suit yet, Tali? How long until they're talking for you? Until they run you?
Xen: I did not work for years to become a slave to the synthetics!
Shepard: Xen, whatever grudge you have with me, it doesn't affect anyone else.
OR Shepard: I figured it was only a matter of time until you cracked.
Fact: Reaper technology could control the geth. Fact: per your reports, the Citadel is Reaper technology. Ergo...
So far, all I've managed to do is shut down a few keepers and kill some rabble, but if I can unlock the Citadel's secrets..
So far, all I've managed to do is shut down a few keepers and kill some rabble, but if I can unlock the Citadel's secrets..
Bailey: It's over, Xen! You'll never get out of here alive unless you surrender!
Shepard: I'm sorry for what happened to you, Xen... but your tests are done.
Xen: But if I surrender, I don't get to continue the tests, now, do I? The tests that can defeat the Reapers? That can build the Crucible?
Xen: You'd put me in a cell while the galaxy burns!
Xen: You small-minded, incompetent fool!
Xen: When the Reapers reduce your homeworld to dust and vapor, you will beg for my help!
Shepard: I'm sorry for what happened to you, Xen... but your tests are done.
Xen: But if I surrender, I don't get to continue the tests, now, do I? The tests that can defeat the Reapers? That can build the Crucible?
Xen: You'd put me in a cell while the galaxy burns!
Xen: You small-minded, incompetent fool!
Xen: When the Reapers reduce your homeworld to dust and vapor, you will beg for my help!
Other dialogue
According to the thread I got this from:
(judging from other snippets that are harder to reconstruct into viable dialogue, she is given an option to surrender and be effectively chained to a research station on the Crucible project, or to be shot on the spot, the choice is ultimately Shepard's and apparently based on a Para/Rene check)
Xen: Tali'Zorah... what would your father say?
Tali: He'd say, "Good work. That bosh'tet was crazy."
Tali: He'd say, "Good work. That bosh'tet was crazy."
If she flew off the handle during the war
Hackett: You did an impressive job ending the war between the geth and the quarians. Unfortunately, Admiral Xen didn't see it that way.
Shepard: She attempted to re-enslave the geth. We stopped her--permanently--but her viral attack destroyed hundreds of geth ships.
Hackett: The quarians had a hell of a time smoothing things over. Fortunately, the geth are still willing to work with us.
Shepard: She attempted to re-enslave the geth. We stopped her--permanently--but her viral attack destroyed hundreds of geth ships.
Hackett: The quarians had a hell of a time smoothing things over. Fortunately, the geth are still willing to work with us.
Video
War Asset Quotes
Admiral Xen, incensed after losing control of the geth, introduced a virus that shut them down in the middle of a pivotal battle. The virus was scrubbed, but not before the geth lost half of their forces.
When Xen's research began to cost lives, Commander Shepard killed her before she could turn more people into test subjects
Comments by the author of the original thread
So, I understand that this was cut is one of the following:
a) it's already gruesome, as it sounds she was experimenting on humans, not just keepers; and the role of "gruesome on the Citadel" was to be reserved for the ending
B) it furthers the anti-geth views of the game (although seeing the ending, it's weird it DIDN'T get kept, as it throws every pro-geth argument you may have had into the incinerator by ignoring the outcome of the war completely)
c) it requires a firefight on the Citadel which would be hard to implement with its role as a hub, unless the "shot and killed" is covered entirely in dialogue wheel/interrupt scenes like the Aria quests.
d) it's similar-sounding to the necromancer quest chain from DA2, although this time out, nobody's mother gets turned into a zombie
e) it allows for a rather high chance of a conventional victory against the Reapers by introducing an ID4-style resolution
f) it allows to predict and prevent the Starchild (dealbreaker, IMO)
a) it's already gruesome, as it sounds she was experimenting on humans, not just keepers; and the role of "gruesome on the Citadel" was to be reserved for the ending
B) it furthers the anti-geth views of the game (although seeing the ending, it's weird it DIDN'T get kept, as it throws every pro-geth argument you may have had into the incinerator by ignoring the outcome of the war completely)
c) it requires a firefight on the Citadel which would be hard to implement with its role as a hub, unless the "shot and killed" is covered entirely in dialogue wheel/interrupt scenes like the Aria quests.
d) it's similar-sounding to the necromancer quest chain from DA2, although this time out, nobody's mother gets turned into a zombie
e) it allows for a rather high chance of a conventional victory against the Reapers by introducing an ID4-style resolution
f) it allows to predict and prevent the Starchild (dealbreaker, IMO)
The ability to rebuild this mission/assignment -exactly- as presented is non-existant. There is a lack of audio for Xen, some parts even sound like there was combat, and it is quite messy and incomplete. But there is an obvious set of outcomes, a portrait of what she might have been attempting, and a couple of letters and a Spectre Terminal message. There is even resolution audio from Admiral Hackett to use. The voice actress for Xen is very distinctive, she has a number of lines in ME2 and 3 that could be made use of, but she also voiced Morrigan in the Dragon Age games. Though their methods of speaking are not 100% matching, her distinctive voice would help make any voices ported over from DA feel right (as long as they were altered to include quarian audio effects).
I think that there is the ability to craft something out of this, what do others think?
Is it worth it?
How would we do it?
Perhaps a team effort could decide on how it flows?
